Is this true? My husband's 2mm kidney stone isn't what's bothering him?

Is this true? My husband's 2mm kidney stone isn't what's bothering him?My husband has had 2 CT scans in the past 3 months both of which show a 2mm kidney stone. He he's been to the ER for the usual symptoms (lower back and flank pain, blood in urine, fever, chills) and the urologist we took him to a few days ago scoffs at him. His blood work was normal and the CT showed that there was nothing else going on. When we gave the urologist the CD of the CT scan he told us he didn't see anything that would be bothering him and he's acting like my husband is just trying to get pain meds (he never asked for them either, I asked them to give him something for the pain). When I told him that I saw the stone on the CT myself, he said, "well yes there's a tiny stone but that wouldn't be causing his symptoms". I'm so frustrated. My husband is not a big baby and what's going on with him looks exactly like what people feel with stones. One of the ER docs said sometimes a stone can move then go back into the kidney over and over and I think that's what is happening. But the urologist is acting like a 2mm isn't big enough to bother him. I'd like to hear about other people's experiences. What can I do for him? He has Lortabs for pain, which don't seem to help much. Does the lemon juice/olive oil mixture really work? Don't know what the stone is made of though, probably calcium or uric acid. He is Japanese and has a family history of stones and gout if that makes a difference. Is a 2mm stone really too small for him to feel? Please help.

Constant reader
The ureter would differ in its diameter down its length and a 2mm stone may become stuck or slowly scrape down causing alot of pain.
Mine was fairly small, yet I passed out several times from the pain(and I was fine with natural, drug-free childbirth).
The stone ended up becoming stuck half way down so I tried the olive oil/lemon juice concoction which was fairly foul and drank lots of water afterwards. All that happened was that I became very bloated and didn't pass much urine. I then tried Coke(as it has caffeine-diuretic) and after drinking a few litres, I ended up passing the stone which by then had broken up into tiny sand-like pieces.

annie42
I had an ectopic pregnancy..2 actually, and did not act like I was in pain, because that is just me, and endangered my life..I was told "you cannot be having an ectopic because you are not in enough pain". I see that doctor's are still making judgments on how much pain folks should be in. Get another opinion.

sooz
I've never heard of the lemon juice/olive oil mixture but these can't hurt either. I would want to know what the stone was made of to see if he needs to limit dairy to prevent more. Lots of water is imperative. When I worked in the ER I could spot someone with a kidney stone a mile away. They are not babies. If the urologist feels it's not the stone then what? The best advice I think that I could give you is to get a second opinion. He could also have a chronic kidney infection requiring a stint. I've seen ppl suffer in a lot of pain from this after doctors dismiss it as muscular pain. I wish you all the best.

LuvzPinK
yes yes yes and YES a srone that size and smaller CAN cause severe pain!!!!! Any "Doctor" that says NO is ill informed and plain cruel and i have and still do RUN when i come across an idiot like the one your hubby has! Please find another asap. And yes Lortabs r a JOKE as far as treating Renal Colic goes- He needs something from the Oxycodone class of drugs NOT the Hydrocodone class} Allthough i have gotten pretty good relief from Vicondin ES} anyways i have been getting stones for YEARS and almost all of mine were tiny and i have the articles to prove alone w/ my own hell that the tiny ones are in fact the most painful!!!! Look it up! Another thing, the Renal CT is ONLY as good as the person reading it,,,,,,,,,,I had a Kstone specialist tell me that! I have had MANY and they have NEVER showed my stones! So ur hubby is lucky they showed any at all ever.{I get stones w/ very little calcium to none in them and they dont show up on conventional xray film} So Dr's dont believe me until i take one to their office with me in my purse which i have done for testing etc It is essential that u get one tested to find out its chemical makeup and to find a Dr that knows their stuff b/c until u find the underlying cause he will get them again and again.I found a world wide known specialist in PREVENTION and i cant get to him but he answered my email! And IF he is near ya'll he is taking patients .He is in Nebraska,, Dr. S. Leslie
Google him,,,maby he can recomend someone? Hes very nice.I found out more from HIM than all the Uros i have gone to now for years,,,,,,pathetic i know.And the lemon juice /virgin olive oil thing made everyone i know sick as a dog so i am already so sick w/ this pain and nausea i have not tried that yet! They said they all got bad runs and threw up or both! But than there is one other person who swears by it.Look into "Hyperparathyroidism" or "Distal Renal Tubular Acidosos" 2 things that can cause chronic stones.Good luck! I feel his pain :(

sunflowers
I don't know if 2mm is too small for him to feel, but I think if he has those symptoms with no relief or answers, then he needs to find a new urologist and get a second opinion. If the second urologist figures out the problem, then you need to think seriously about reporting the first urologist to the medical board in your state and/or getting an attorney.

Blood in urine could be from a urinary tract infection (he should have done a UA/CS..urinary analysis and culture) or from cancer (he should have done a urine cytology test) or probably from the stone or of unknown cause (but first you have to rule out the other possibilities).

Lower back and flank pain could be from a repetitive motion (ie chopping/splitting wood, etc) leading to a slipped disc or maybe sciatica (pinched nerve). If he is doing something like chopping wood, then the blood could be maybe from some sort of jostling around of the kidneys from the movement (happened to me with sciatica and blood in urine from unknown cause that cleared up when I stopped chopping wood).

To test for sciatica, get 2 bathroom scales and stand with one foot on each scale and have someone read the scales. It should read 50% of your weight on each scale, plus or minus 5LBS difference. If more than that difference, then he is putting more weight on one foot than the other foot and probably one hip is higher than the other hip (from a repetitive movement on one side?). This unbalance of the spine can pinch the sciatic nerve, leading to sciatica.

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